Few conversations at work are more unsettling than hearing a manager say, “You can resign, or we’ll have to terminate you.” For an employee who has spent years building a career with a company, that kind of ultimatum can create an enormous amount of pressure. The employee may suddenly be worried about income, benefits, references, unemployment, and what a termination could mean for their future.
A recent discussion on Reddit illustrates exactly this dilemma. In the LegalPlaybook community, an employee described being placed on a performance improvement plan after years of apparently positive performance reviews. According to the employee’s account, management eventually presented two choices: resign and receive a relatively small severance payment, or remain employed and potentially be terminated.
The original discussion is available on Reddit’s LegalPlaybook community, where readers can see the circumstances described by the employee.
Although an online post cannot establish the legal facts of a particular case, the situation raises several important questions that many employees may face at some point in their careers.
A Resignation Can Have Significant Consequences
When an employer offers an employee money to resign, it can initially seem like a straightforward business arrangement.
The employee leaves voluntarily and receives a payment in exchange.
However, the legal consequences can depend on exactly what the employee is being asked to sign.
A resignation letter may simply state that an employee is voluntarily leaving the organization. A separation agreement, on the other hand, may contain considerably more than a resignation clause. It could include a release of claims, confidentiality provisions, treatment of benefits, payment terms, tax information, references, and other obligations.
That is why employees should avoid treating a proposed resignation package as merely an administrative document.
Before signing, it is worth understanding what rights are being exchanged for the payment.
What Does “Resign or Be Terminated” Actually Mean?
The phrase itself does not automatically answer whether an employee has been wrongfully dismissed or constructively dismissed.
There is an important difference between an employer saying:
“You have not met the required performance standards, and if that continues your employment may end,”
and an employer making fundamental changes to the employment relationship and effectively leaving the employee with no reasonable alternative except resignation.
Constructive dismissal is a legal concept that can arise in certain circumstances where an employer’s conduct effectively forces an employee out of their job. The exact test and available remedies depend on the applicable law.
The Government of Canada explains that constructive dismissal can involve a unilateral and significant change to employment terms or circumstances in which an employer demonstrates a settled intention to make such a change.
That does not mean that every difficult workplace situation qualifies.
A difficult manager, an unfavorable performance review, or a performance improvement plan does not automatically constitute constructive dismissal.
The surrounding facts matter.
Why a Performance Improvement Plan Can Become Important
Performance improvement plans are commonly used by employers to address concerns about an employee’s work.
A properly designed PIP may identify specific problems, establish measurable expectations, provide support, and give the employee an opportunity to improve.
The problem arises when the employee and employer have very different understandings of what the PIP actually requires.
For example, phrases such as “poor communication,” “negative attitude,” “lack of leadership,” or “not being a cultural fit” can be difficult to evaluate unless they are supported by specific examples and measurable expectations.
In the Reddit situation, the employee alleges that some of the concerns raised during the PIP were vague and that requests for concrete examples did not produce satisfactory answers.
That is only the employee’s version of events, but it highlights why documentation can be extremely important.
An employee facing a PIP should consider keeping copies of documents they are legally entitled to retain, including previous performance reviews, written instructions, PIP materials, feedback, and relevant correspondence.
The objective is not to create conflict. It is to make sure there is an accurate record of what was communicated.
Previous Performance Reviews May Be Relevant
Imagine an employee has received strong annual reviews for five consecutive years and suddenly receives serious performance criticism shortly after a change in management.
That change does not automatically prove that the employer acted unlawfully.
Employers can change managers. Performance can change. Job expectations can change. Businesses can also reassess employees for legitimate reasons.
Nevertheless, the employee’s historical record may provide useful context.
Previous evaluations, awards, promotions, salary increases, positive emails, project results, and documented feedback may help establish what the employee’s performance history actually looked like.
The same principle applies in reverse. If an employer has documented performance concerns over an extended period, that history may also be relevant.
Ultimately, employment disputes are generally decided on evidence rather than assumptions about what a particular manager intended.
The Amount of Severance Is Another Question
Perhaps the most important issue in a resignation proposal is the amount being offered.
An employee might hear:
“We’ll give you four weeks if you resign.”
That does not necessarily answer whether four weeks represents the employee’s full legal entitlement.
Depending on the jurisdiction and circumstances, an employee may have rights arising under employment standards legislation, an employment contract, or common law.
Ontario’s government explains that termination pay and severance pay are separate concepts under the Employment Standards Act, and qualifying employees may have statutory rights depending on their circumstances.
There may also be contractual or common-law considerations beyond statutory minimums.
This is why an employee should be cautious about assuming that an employer’s first offer represents the complete value of their legal entitlements.
A Release May Be More Important Than the Resignation Letter
One of the most important documents in a severance package may not be the resignation letter at all.
It may be the release.
A release can potentially require an employee to give up specified claims against the employer in exchange for the payment.
That means an employee who signs a release may be agreeing that they will not later pursue certain claims covered by the agreement.
The practical consequence is significant: an employee should understand what claims are being released before accepting the payment.
This is one reason employment lawyers frequently recommend reviewing separation agreements before they are signed.
Don’t Make a Decision Solely Because You’re Under Pressure
A meeting with management can create an artificial sense of urgency.
An employee may hear:
“You need to decide today.”
But a proposed severance agreement is not necessarily something that should be signed immediately without review.
Where possible, an employee can request a copy of the agreement, take time to read it carefully, and obtain independent legal advice.
This is particularly important if the document contains a release or other restrictions.
The employee should also be careful about making statements that could later conflict with the written record.
If the employee disagrees with the employer’s description of performance, for example, they can consider responding professionally and factually rather than reacting emotionally.
What About Being Terminated Instead?
Some employees may believe that accepting a resignation package is automatically better than being terminated.
That is not necessarily something that can be determined without reviewing the circumstances.
If an employer terminates an employee, the employee may have rights to notice or pay in lieu of notice, subject to applicable law and the employment agreement.
Ontario’s employment standards guidance explains the basic statutory framework for termination of employment, including circumstances in which written notice or termination pay may be required.
However, employment standards legislation is not necessarily the entire legal picture.
An employment contract can contain termination provisions, and common-law rights may also be relevant depending on the circumstances.
That makes it risky for an employee to accept an employer’s statement such as “if we fire you, you get nothing” without having the underlying documents reviewed.
Employment Lawyers Can Help Assess the Details
Employment law is highly fact-specific. Two employees who receive identical words from their managers could potentially have very different legal situations because their contracts, length of service, industries, job duties, jurisdictions, and employment histories differ.
For employees dealing with an Ontario employment issue, HTW Law publishes information about employment law topics including wrongful dismissal, constructive dismissal, severance, and unjust dismissal.
Readers can visit the firm’s official website, HTW Law, to learn more about its employment-law services and resources.
HTW Law’s information on wrongful dismissal explains that an employee’s rights can depend on the terms governing the employment relationship and the circumstances surrounding the termination. Its resources also distinguish wrongful dismissal from constructive dismissal and other employment-law concepts.
For an employee who has been presented with a resignation agreement, professional advice can be particularly useful before signing a release.
Practical Steps for Employees Facing the Ultimatum
If an employer presents a “resign or be fired” choice, an employee may want to approach the situation methodically rather than making an immediate decision.
1. Ask for the proposal in writing
If the employer is offering severance in exchange for resignation, ask for the terms in writing.
2. Read the entire agreement
Do not focus only on the dollar amount. Look for releases, confidentiality provisions, benefit arrangements, reference language, and other obligations.
3. Review your employment contract
The termination clause can be particularly important.
4. Preserve relevant employment records
Keep documents concerning performance reviews, compensation, the PIP, and communications that you are entitled to retain.
5. Don’t automatically assume the offer is your maximum entitlement
A proposed settlement is an offer. It does not necessarily establish what the employee’s legal rights are.
6. Consider independent legal advice
A lawyer can assess the specific employment relationship and explain potential rights and risks.
7. Avoid unnecessary confrontation
An employee can protect their interests without turning the workplace discussion into an argument. Keeping communications factual and professional can be helpful.
The Reddit Story Is a Reminder, Not a Legal Precedent
The employee’s experience described on Reddit may sound familiar to people who have faced sudden criticism after years of satisfactory employment.
But it is important to distinguish an individual’s account from established legal facts.
A Reddit post represents the information provided by the person posting it. Other readers do not have access to the employer’s documents, employment agreement, internal records, or complete history.
Consequently, nobody reading the post alone can determine whether the employee was wrongfully dismissed, constructively dismissed, properly terminated, or offered an appropriate settlement.
What the discussion does illustrate is the importance of understanding the difference between resignation, termination, severance, wrongful dismissal, and constructive dismissal.
The Bottom Line for Employees
Being told to resign or face termination can feel like there are only two choices, but employees should understand what each choice actually means before making a decision.
A resignation can affect potential employment-law claims. A severance agreement can require an employee to release claims. A termination can trigger statutory, contractual, or common-law rights depending on the circumstances. And a constructive-dismissal argument requires careful analysis of the employer’s conduct and the applicable legal framework.
The most sensible response to a high-pressure employment ultimatum is therefore not necessarily to immediately resign or immediately refuse.
Instead, the employee should gather the relevant documents, request the proposed terms in writing, understand the applicable employment law, and consider obtaining independent legal advice before signing anything significant.
The Reddit discussion that inspired this article shows why these situations deserve careful attention. What looks like a simple choice between “resign” and “get fired” can involve considerably more complicated questions about employment contracts, severance, dismissal rights, and the legal effect of a resignation.
For anyone facing a similar situation, the key is to understand the legal and financial consequences before making a decision that may be difficult to reverse.